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Senate panel tables bill to create independent government-accountability office after mixed testimony

5724489 · March 21, 2025
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Summary

Senate Bill 484 to create a small, technology-focused Government Accountability to Taxpayers office drew supporters, including fiscal watchdogs and academics, and opposition from the state auditor; the committee tabled the bill following debate and public testimony.

Senate Bill 484, which would create an independent office to use data tools to detect potential waste, fraud and abuse in state spending, was debated and then tabled by the committee on a roll call. Supporters hailed the proposal as a focused, technology-enabled effort to recover misspent funds; the state auditor warned it would duplicate existing functions.

Sen. Matt Block, State Senator and sponsor of SB 484, described the proposed office as a legislative support agency with expertise in AI, software engineering and data analysis to mine transactions and flag possible problems for referral. He said the office would not have authority to fire employees or dismantle programs and compared the idea to historical federal efficiency efforts, noting the proposed office would be relatively small.

Paul Gessing, president of the Rio Grande Foundation, testified in favor and urged more oversight of large cash balances and capital outlay. "New Mexico can and should do a better job with financial oversight," Gessing said. Dr. Jacob Kurian, identified as a Ph.D. physicist who has worked in health care and forensic accounting research, testified the state could recover substantial overpayments in Medicaid; he cited a 2019 LFC estimate and suggested uncollected penalties could amount to significantly larger sums.

Public commenters representing advocacy groups and grassroots organizations also supported SB 484. Ramona Goolsby of the Center for Accountability told the committee the public should not have to audit government and encouraged an independent office to "shine light on waste, inefficiency and by reviewing each agency for compliance." John Veltri of Better Together New Mexico said the bill would produce annual reports and recommendations that could improve government operations.

State Auditor Brian Rogers testified in opposition, telling the committee his constitutionally enabled office already audits nearly 1,200 public entities and investigates fraud, waste and abuse. "My office is a constitutionally enabled office charged with auditing every single public entity in the state of New Mexico," Rogers said, and noted his office already has subpoena authority and a fraud-examiner cadre. He called the proposed bill duplicative and urged lawmakers to fund and reform his office instead.

Sen. Bergman moved to table the bill. The chair announced the motion carried: "With 6 in favor of your bills tabled." Sponsor Block said he intended to bring the proposal back in a future session.

Why it matters: The bill surfaced tensions about whether to centralize new, technology-driven audit capabilities in a new office or to strengthen and better fund existing constitutional and statutory watchdogs. Supporters argued modern data tools can recover funds quickly; the auditor and some senators warned against duplication and emphasized independence and adequate resourcing of existing offices.

No further committee action was taken at this meeting; the sponsor signaled intent to continue pursuing the idea.