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Prosecutors tell committee pretrial self‑defense hearing would create gamesmanship and confuse juries

5534066 · June 11, 2025
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Summary

The Ohio Prosecuting Attorneys Association opposed House Bill 108 at a House Judiciary Committee hearing, arguing the bill's pretrial self-defense procedure would let defendants call the state's witnesses prematurely, create duplicative mini-trials, and revive a confusing "rebuttable presumption" at odds with current burden-of-proof law.

Columbus — The Ohio Prosecuting Attorneys Association told the House Judiciary Committee it opposes House Bill 108, which would allow defendants who claim self defense to seek a mandatory pretrial hearing that, under the bill's text, could create a rebuttable presumption of self defense.

"The filing of the motion requires the court to hold a preponderance of the evidence that the accused person acted in self defense, the court must grant the pretrial motion, which establishes a rebuttable presumption of self defense," said Lou Tobin, testifying as a representative of the prosecuting attorneys' association. Tobin argued the procedural change would allow defendants "an early opportunity prior to trial to examine the state's witnesses, get them on the record, learn what they plan to say at trial, [and] set themselves up for cross examination at trial." He said the process would permit "live test[ing]" of trial strategies and would impose burdens on victims forced to testify twice.

Tobin also told the committee that the statutory "rebuttable presumption" language is a vestige of earlier law and is inconsistent with a later statutory shift (House Bill 228) that places the burden on prosecutors to disprove self defense beyond a reasonable doubt. He said instructing juries on both a rebuttable-presumption standard and a beyond-a-reasonable-doubt standard would produce confusion and duplication.

Representative Williams pushed back that the committee's concern is to avoid putting defendants in the risky position of admitting guilt at trial without a clear way to test the self-defense claim beforehand. Tobin said prosecutors would not necessarily benefit from duplicative hearings and that the pretrial hearing could become "the main event," producing resource duplication rather than clarity.

No vote was taken on HB108 during the hearing. Several committee members suggested stakeholder meetings to narrow or clarify the scope of any pretrial process and whether it should permit calling the state's witnesses, create a presumption, or otherwise alter existing burdens of proof.