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Vermont committee hears S.125 debate over decertification threshold and supervisor unionization

3126618 · April 25, 2025
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Summary

On April 25 the Vermont House General & Housing Committee heard testimony on S.125, an omnibus worker-rights bill that would raise the signature threshold to trigger a decertification election from 30% to 50% plus one and would extend the ability to vote on unionization to certain supervisors, including some judiciary employees.

Montpelier — Members of the Vermont House General & Housing Committee on April 25 heard testimony on S.125, an omnibus bill on worker rights and collective bargaining that would raise the threshold of signatures needed to trigger a union decertification election from the current 30% to 50% plus one and would allow certain supervisors — including some judiciary employees — the opportunity to vote on whether to unionize.

Supporters including Steve Howard, executive director of the Vermont State Employees Association (VSEA), said the decertification change would promote "labor peace" by ensuring that only a substantial showing of support can force an election. "VSEA strongly supports the the, s 1 25 as it was passed out of the senate," Howard told the committee. Tom Abelour, legislative coordinator for VSEA, said the change protects workers' First Amendment right of free association: "I think it's important that, a small minority of folks not be allowed to throw that important fundamental constitutional right into jeopardy."

The bill's decertification provision is the focus of much of the testimony. Under current state practice, unions or rival groups may submit cards signed by employees; if the signatures meet the statutory threshold an election is scheduled and ballots are mailed to eligible voters. Howard and other witnesses described how the Vermont Labor Relations Board reviews and certifies cards, resolves disputes about who belongs in a bargaining unit, and administers elections by mail. Howard said employers may not lawfully solicit on state property or during working hours, and that allegations of employer bias can be filed as unfair labor practices with the labor board.

Firefighters' witnesses urged a higher threshold than 50% in some contexts. Christopher Doobie, identified as a fire union president, told the committee, "Quite honestly, it scares me that such a low number could do that," arguing that internal union withdrawal rules often require two-thirds or higher to prevent small groups from decertifying a local over personal disputes. Doobie said his union's internal bylaws often set a higher bar for withdrawal from national or state associations than the state-law decertification threshold.

Legal clarification from Sophie Sedatny of the Office of Legislative Council distinguished between internal union bylaws and the state-law process to decertify a representative organization. "What the provision in front of the committee is talking about is decertifying an existing representative organization," Sedatny said, and she explained that internal bylaws govern withdrawal from a national or state association but do not change the statutory threshold for triggering a state-administered election.

Witnesses also debated whether supervisors — including those in the judiciary — should be eligible to vote on unionization. Tom Abelour and other proponent witnesses argued that supervisory employees in state government have long had the right to organize and that the Vermont Labor Relations Board routinely resolves disputes about which positions belong in a bargaining unit. Abelour noted a longstanding executive-branch supervisory unit and said the same statutory tests can be applied to any proposed judiciary unit.

Committee members asked practical questions about how decertification campaigns take place. Witnesses described card-collection practices (typically gathered off state property and off working time), VLRB verification of cards, mail ballots administered much like absentee ballots, and common points of dispute — chiefly unit composition and whether job duties render an employee managerial or confidential.

No formal committee action or votes on S.125 were taken during the session recorded in the transcript. The committee scheduled additional testimony after lunch and planned to hear further witnesses later in the day, including representatives identified in the transcript as Terry, Joe McNeil, and police association leadership.

The discussion left standing divisions: union representatives and allied labor groups urged the committee to adopt the Senate-passed language raising the card threshold and to permit supervisory and certain judiciary employees to vote on union representation; firefighters and local union leaders urged considering higher internal thresholds to avoid unit fragmentation driven by small, short-term disputes. The committee said it will continue hearings and may seek additional legal and policy detail in later testimony.