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Eternal Matters host urges opposition to abortion, describes clinic protests and cites fetal-development and health claims

3088089 · April 23, 2025
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Steve Finley, host of the podcast Eternal Matters, urged listeners to oppose abortion, encouraged public protests at clinics and cited medical and developmental claims about fetuses and abortion-related risks.

Steve Finley, host of the podcast Eternal Matters, urged listeners to oppose abortion during a roughly hour-long broadcast, called the procedure "murder" and encouraged listeners to protest outside clinics and serve as sidewalk counselors.

Finley said the issue matters because he views abortion as the unjust taking of human life and said public protest can change outcomes. "If you go there and you're part of this action that you call the sidewalk counselor, and babies have been saved, just by that alone," he said.

Finley described his regular public demonstrations at intersections and outside clinics, saying participants hold signs (including graphic images) and call out to people going into clinics. He instructed would-be volunteers that, in his account, protesters must stay 36 feet from a building and 8 feet from patients: "you have to stand 36 feet away from the bridal, from the building, and 8 feet away from the people." He also invited listeners to contact him via email or the studio for coordination and to be connected with counseling resources.

Finley repeatedly framed abortion as morally equivalent to killing and used forceful language: "Is it ever, ever, ever okay to kill a baby? Well no, of course not." He urged adoption as an alternative and criticized the idea that rape is a justification for abortion, saying, "Go after the father of the baby, and let the baby live."

Finley attributed several medical and developmental claims to his review of sources during the broadcast. He said a fetus has "a beating heart at just 21 old, less than a month" and that at about 56 days it "reacts to pain." He cited an unnamed Harvard Medical School study, saying "the rate of complications in second trimester abortions is up to 50 percent and higher," and claimed aggregated studies that, in his telling, showed an increased breast cancer risk after abortion. He also cited emotional-impact studies: "1 study of 500 women who had undergone an abortion reported that 43 percent demonstrated immediate negative responses," and later a review rising to "50 percent," with "nearly 10 percent" experiencing "serious psychiatric complications." In each instance he presented these as findings he had read.

The program included practical contact information Finley offered to listeners: a "pregnancy hotline" he read as 848-5683 (presented as an 800-number) and a phone number for Bethany Christian Services as 238-4269. He invited listeners who had experienced abortion or were considering it to seek counseling and spiritual support, and he offered to put people in touch with local aid through the program.

Finley made clear his opposition extends to legal and moral positions: "If you support the concept of abortion, you're in sin," and he said legalizing abortion would be wrong even if some people seek unsafe procedures after prohibition. He also described the use of graphic images in protests and defended their use, saying adults who object often "use the children as an excuse" because the images force viewers to confront the reality of abortion.

Finley's statements on medical risk, fetal development timelines, and statistical findings were presented as his summaries of studies and sources; the broadcast did not provide full citations for many of the scientific claims he cited.

Finley's broadcast combined exhortation, protest strategy, health claims, and offers of pastoral and counseling assistance for listeners concerned about pregnancy or abortion.