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Historic-preservation commission approves two downtown signs; members debate internal lighting for Fading Goat sign
Summary
The Livingston City Historic Preservation Commission approved signage for the Main Street Print Shop and a projecting, internally lit sign for the Fading Goat/Barton Grill entrance after public comment and discussion about dark-sky and historic-district compatibility.
The Livingston City Historic Preservation Commission approved two design-review sign applications for downtown businesses: signage for Main Street Print Shop and a projecting, internally lit entrance sign for the Fading Goat (Barton Grill). Both motions passed at the meeting; the Main Street Print Shop signs were approved unanimously and the projecting sign passed after discussion about illumination and historic appropriateness.
Main Street Print Shop sign
The applicant described two flat, unlit signs to be installed in recessed brick insets above an existing awning for the Main Street Print Shop and the Park County Community Journal. Planning staff confirmed the signs comply with the city sign code; commissioners noted the artwork was somewhat busy but raised no code objections. Commissioner discussion led to a motion to approve the two signs. The motion passed with a unanimous voice vote.
Fading Goat / Barton Grill projecting sign
The commission then considered a new projecting/entrance sign for the Fading Goat/Barton Grill. Unlike the Main Street Print Shop signs, the proposed projecting sign would be internally lit and use white translucent acrylic with printed vinyl. Planning staff reminded the commission that the city's dark-sky ordinance requires internally lit signs to use dark backgrounds with light lettering in some cases, and that the sign code had been revised since an earlier approval on Park Street.
Members of the public and a former commission member objected to backlit signs in the historic district. Bob Edinger said, "When I was on this board, backlit signs were not allowed," and questioned whether the proposed white-acrylic, internally lit border was compatible with the district. Jeff Gallie, representing downtown interests, said he would prefer an externally lit hanging sign.
Commissioner opinions were mixed: one commissioner said the sign was small and consistent with a previously approved Park Street sign and supported matching the two signs; another commissioner said an externally lit sign would be preferable for the historic district and indicated they would vote against the internal illumination. After discussion the commission voted to approve the projecting internally lit sign; roll-call responses recorded several "yes" votes and the motion passed.
Votes and procedural notes
- Main Street Print Shop: motion to approve two flat, unlit recessed signs; unanimous approval by voice vote. - Fading Goat / Barton Grill projecting sign: motion to approve the internally lit projecting sign; motion passed by recorded affirmative votes.
Ending
Planning staff reminded the applicants that because the projecting sign will be electrically powered and affixed to the building they must obtain a separate building permit for electrical work and mounting. Commissioners noted the sign code revisions that apply in the Central Business District and encouraged applicants to respect dark-sky standards.
