An unidentified speaker at a public hearing challenged witnesses over the pardon of Paul Walczak, a man the speaker described as having inflicted nearly $1.1 billion in taxpayer losses and later receiving a presidential pardon.

"Now let's look at Paul Walczak," the speaker said, adding that "A tax cheater's crimes cost taxpayers almost $1,100,000,000," and that Walczak made "lavish purchases like a $1,000,000 luxury yacht." The speaker noted Walczak "was supposed to spend 18 months in prison, and he was supposed to pay $4,400,000 back to the taxpayers," and said Walczak was pardoned less than three weeks after his mother attended a "$1,000,000 per person candlelight dinner at Mar-a-Lago with President Donald Trump."

The unidentified speaker pressed the panel, asking whether witnesses viewed the pardon as evidence of improper influence. In response, an unidentified witness said, "Sir, I have not looked at the, facts of the case or the law, so I cannot make a statement on that." The speaker criticized that reply and framed the pardon as part of a broader pattern of elite impunity.

The speaker also connected the pardon discussion to executive budget actions, saying, "Donald Trump's decision to freeze $10,000,000,000 in social services funding to 5 states does not hold criminals accountable. It hurts the very people who are harmed by fraud in the first place," and warned that cutting benefits would damage "innocent people and kids who just need their services."

No formal vote or policy decision regarding the pardon or the funding freeze appears in the transcript. The record shows the witness declined to offer an opinion without reviewing the facts or law.