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Witness declines to oppose George Santos pardon while affirming fraudsters should be held accountable
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Summary
During questioning about public-program fraud, Miss Robbins said fraudsters should be held accountable and that they 'should go to jail,' but she declined to say whether she opposed President Trump's pardon of George Santos without reviewing the law and facts; the questioner pressed and called the refusal 'cowardice.'
A questioner pressed Miss Robbins on whether people who defraud public programs should face criminal penalties and whether she opposed President Donald Trump's pardon of George Santos, whom the questioner said owed $370,000 in restitution to victims.
Miss Robbins responded that those convicted of defrauding the public should be held accountable. When asked what should happen to fraudsters, she said, "They should go to jail." Later in the exchange, asked to raise her hand if she opposed the pardon of George Santos, Miss Robbins declined, saying, "Ma'am, I would have to look at the law and the facts of the case." She added that she could not know the facts of every individual case.
The questioner repeatedly pressed for a direct statement. He said the Santos case was public and argued the situation was not complicated, pointing to the restitution amount and asking Miss Robbins to state opposition to the pardon on the record. After Miss Robbins declined to oppose the pardon on the spot, the questioner said, "I will take your refusal to go on record, not only as cowardice, but that you do agree with that pardon of that fraudster."
The exchange ended with the questioner saying, "Moving on," and introducing another example; the transcript does not record any formal vote or further clarification from Miss Robbins on the pardon.
The discussion juxtaposed a general endorsement of criminal accountability for fraud with a refusal to take an immediate public position on a specific presidential pardon, with the questioner framing the Santos example as a test of that stance.
