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ARB tells 818 Holland applicant to fix mismatched drawings and return with coordinated plans

Webster Groves Architecture Review Board · March 20, 2026
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Summary

Board found significant coordination errors in the 818 Holland Avenue preliminary submission—mismatched roof plans and elevations, unlabeled siding, and inconsistent door/window calls—and asked the applicant to resubmit with corrected, permit-quality drawings.

The Webster Groves Architecture Review Board told the applicant for 818 Holland Avenue to correct multiple coordination errors and return with clearer drawings after a detailed preliminary review.

Board members said the set submitted for preliminary review contained conflicting information: portions of the roof appear on elevations but not on the roof plan, windows are shown on elevations but omitted from plans, and siding areas are variously labeled "horizontal," "vertical" or left unspecified. The board said those conflicts make the submission "not really reviewable or usable as a record of what's approved" and instructed the applicant to provide coordinated architectural and engineering drawings for the next review.

Applicant Joe Pal answered specific questions about the garage (wall heights and an 8-foot garage door; the drawings show a 10-foot wall and an 8-foot door), foundation steps, porch column details and several window-location discrepancies. Pal acknowledged the limitations of the packet and said the architect had been unavailable; he told the board, "I kind of botched this up a little bit... I didn't do a good enough job obviously, but we'll work on it. We'll get them to you." That remark was offered as the applicant described relying on preliminary sketches due to schedule constraints.

Board recommendations included: coordinate roof plans and elevations; clarify siding patterns by graphic hatch or labeled material; show consistent window and door types across plan sheets (for example, choose either a sliding patio door or a side-hinge door and show it everywhere); and include foundation/grade transitions and porch trim details so the set can serve as a permit record. The chair reminded the applicant the ARB will need the corrected set when the item returns.

The board scheduled a follow-up: the applicant was told to return on the next ARB meeting date after revisions, which the record lists as the first Thursday of the next month.