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Phil Lyman presses for election records, says state officials resisted access
Summary
Lyman told the Utah County Republican Party podcast that, while a legislator and county official, he was denied access to voter rolls and cast‑vote records and alleged contracts and agency resistance impeded verification of vote anomalies. He said litigation and whistleblower allegations followed; the claims remain unresolved in the recording.
Phil Lyman said he repeatedly sought election records — including voter rolls and cast‑vote records — while serving in the Utah legislature and was denied access, a pattern he said shows systemic opacity in statewide election administration.
“As a legislator I asked to go over the voter roles,” Lyman said. “I was told, ‘No, you can’t.’ ... We can subpoena those, but we have no powers to enforce the subpoena.” He said that a state contract with an electronic records vendor instructed denial of legislative requests unless the legislature sued to obtain records.
Lyman urged such records be made public to allow verification he said the system needs. He also asserted there were “40,000 fake votes or flipped votes” in a primary election and said officials declined to publish precinct records that would prove or disprove the allegation.
Host Charles Maxwood characterized that figure as “audacious” and asked for proof; the recording contains Lyman’s assertions and descriptions of subsequent court filings and a whistleblower but does not include documents or an independent verification of the vote totals.
Lyman said the inquiry included signature packets and that in some county races signature records were provided to challengers but that in his examples state officials denied access. He described ongoing litigation stemming from those disputes and said the denials and redactions of audio and records in court filings had frustrated efforts to obtain clarity.
The recording does not present evidence supporting the numeric claim, nor does it include an independent audit. County and state officials are not recorded responding in this segment. Lyman said he would have liked to have sued as a legislator to force disclosure and that, in retrospect, he wished he had pursued that path.
Because the transcript records the candidate’s assertions without contemporaneous documentary evidence, the claims remain unresolved and would require records releases or court documents to substantiate.
