A lifetime championing refugees, Filippo Grandi | UN High Commissioner for Refugees | Awake at Night

United Nations / UNHCR podcast · December 19, 2025

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Podcast introduction and reason for second interview

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Melissa Fleming introduces the episode and explains she is interviewing Filippo Grandi again because of his recent work on behalf of refugees and because he is about to leave his post at the UN. Sets context for a reflective conversation.

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Melissa Fleming interviews Filippo Grandi, the UN High Commissioner for Refugees, about his tenure, rising displacement numbers, returning refugees in Syria, cuts to humanitarian funding and staff, and the politicization of migration as he prepares to step down.

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